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Post by FelixDewott Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:40 pm

Hi! My name is Felix and I joined the forums to be better at competitive battling. So far, I have only started to learn with Pokemon X. I'm trying to get Alpha Sapphire but for the time being, I wish to learn with Pokemon X and I hope to make new friends with everyone!

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Post by Karasugaming Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:15 pm

welcome to the forums my friend. there are many competitive battlers such as myself, zeno, futurecreator and Yria. Im sure that the others like myself would like to help you.
if you want to test what you know about competitive battling you can battle against the SL GL (silver league gym leaders) by going to the ambercrest chat.
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Post by FelixDewott Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:31 pm

Thanks! Unfortunately, there is one thing I need to ask for before I can begin to properly EV Train as I'm not cut out for IV Breeding yet, and that one thing I'm missing is a Pokemon infected with Pokerus. With my luck, I likely will never encounter Pokerus myself and while I can fight in the Battle Maison to get BP for all the Power items on my own, I can't really continue without Pokerus.

I really do hate to mention this when I just showed up but before I challenge the Gyms, I sadly need to ask for a Pokerus infected Pokemon.

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Post by Karasugaming Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:55 pm

I don't use a pokemon with pokerus nor is it needed and easier. It can be easier to ev train aganist hordes and turning on your exp share.
what your going to need
1st pokemon in your slot with EQ or Surf
and the pokemon you want to ev train.
including a oddish with sweet scent.

and incase im mucking up im just going to copy and paste this 
Tips and General Information

A Few General EV Training Tips:


  • Pokémon gain EVs whenever they gain experience; if you're not starting with a freshly hatched Pokémon, you'll probably need to reset its EVs with a Reset Bag first.

  • Pokérus doubles the EVs gained per Pokémon defeated.

  • Macho Brace doubles the EVs gained per Pokémon defeated.

  • Power items add +4 in a specific stat to the EVs gained per Pokémon defeated.

  • With Exp. Share ON, all Pokémon in the party gain EVs.


A Few Horde EV Training Tips:

  • Using Sweet Scent or Honey initiates a Horde battle 100% of the time on the routes listed below.

  • Common Sweet Scent Pokémon include Combee (Route 4) and Bulbasaur (Pokémon Lab).

  • Sweet Scent Horde battles will not activate on rainy routes.

  • If it is currently raining on a route you were going to use for EV training, choose another route from the list below.

  • To defeat all five Pokémon in one turn, use a powerful Pokémon with a move that hits all opponents.

  • Common choices include Pokémon with Surf, Parabolic Charge Heliolisk, and Petal Blizzard Venusaur.

  • You gain EVs for each Pokémon defeated in battle. In Horde battles, you gain a total of five times the regular EVs.

  • Power item, Macho Brace, and Pokérus boosts are applied to each Pokémon defeated.

  • With Exp. Share ON, a Pokémon who does not participate in battle can gain additional EVs by equipping the aforementioned EV-boosting items.


An Explanation of Horde EV Math:

  • The total number of EVs gained from defeating every Pokémon in a Horde Battle can be found at the end of each line below.

  • Pokérus doubles the total EV gain per Horde Battle.

  • Macho Brace doubles the total EV gain per Horde Battle.

  • Power Items add four EVs per Pokémon defeated.

  • All multipliers are cumulative (e.g., Pokérus + Macho Brace = 4*EVs).


Most Efficient Routes for EV Training
These routes take into account frequency of encounters, number of EVs gained per Pokémon defeated, and ease of access to the location.

  • HP - Route 5, Connecting Cave, Route 20

  • Attack - Route 19, Route 14

  • Defense - Terminus Cave, Victory Road

  • Special Attack - Frost Cavern

  • Special Defense - Reflection Cave

  • Speed - Route 8, Route 12, Route 15


A Complete List of Horde Battles Per Route
Encounters are color coded as follows:

  • Health Points

  • Attack

  • Defense

  • Special Attack

  • Special Defense

  • Speed

  • Mixed


Route 5 - Versant Road
Nice to meet you all! Gulpin [Common] Gulpin (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Scraggy [Uncommon] Scraggy (1 Atk) = 5 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Minun Nice to meet you all! Plusle [Rare: Y] Minun*4 (4 Spe) + Plusle*1 (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Plusle Nice to meet you all! Minun [Rare: 
X] Plusle*4 (4 Spe) + Minun*1 (1 Spe) = 5 Spe

Route 7 - Rivière Walk
Nice to meet you all! Hoppip [Common] Hoppip (1 SpD) = 5 SpD
Nice to meet you all! Psyduck [Uncommon] Psyduck (1 SpA) = 5 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Roselia [Rare] Roselia (2 SpA) = 10 SpA


Connecting Cave
Nice to meet you all! Whismur [Common] Whismur (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Zubat [Uncommon] Zubat (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Axew [Rare] Axew (1 Atk) = 5 Atk

Route 8 - Muraille Coast Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Wingull [Common] Wingull (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Seviper Nice to meet you all! Zangoose [Uncommon: Y] Seviper*4 (4 Atk + 4 SpA) + Zangoose*1 (2 Atk) = 6 Atk + 4 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Zangoose Nice to meet you all! Seviper [Uncommon: X] Zangoose*4 (8 Atk) + Seviper*1 (1 Atk + 1 SpA) = 9 Atk + 1 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Taillow [Rare] Taillow = 5 Spe

Route 10 - Menhir Trail Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Nosepass [Common] Nosepass (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Yanma [Uncommon] Yanma (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Electrike [Rare: 
Y] Electrike (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Houndour [Rare: X] Houndour (1 SpA) = 5 SpA

Route 11 - Miroir Way
Nice to meet you all! Nidoran-f Nice to meet you all! Nidoran-m [Common: Y] Nidoran♀*4 (4 HP) + Nidoran♂*1 (1 Atk) = 4 HP + 1 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Nidoran-m Nice to meet you all! Nidoran-f [Common: 
X] Nidoran♂*4 (4 Atk) + Nidoran♀*1 (1 HP) = 4 Atk + 1 HP
Nice to meet you all! Stunky [Uncommon] Stunky = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Starly [Rare] Starly = 5 Spe


Reflection Cave
Nice to meet you all! Mime_jr [Common] Mime Jr. (1 SpD) = 5 SpD
Nice to meet you all! Roggenrola [Uncommon] Roggenrola (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Roggenrola Nice to meet you all! Carbink [Rare] Roggenrola*4 (4 Def) + Carbink*1 (1 Def + 1 SpD) = 5 Def + 1 SpD

Route 12 - Fourrage Road
Nice to meet you all! Wingull [Common] Wingull = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Mareep [Uncommon] Mareep = 5 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Tauros Nice to meet you all! Miltank [Rare] Tauros*4 (4 Atk + 4 Spe) + Miltank*1 (2 Def) = 4 Atk + 4 Spe + 2 Def

Azure Bay
Nice to meet you all! Wingull [Common] Wingull (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Slowpoke [Uncommon] Slowpoke (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Exeggcute [Rare] Exeggcute (1 Def) = 5 Def

Route 14 - Laverre Nature Trail Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Bellsprout [Common] Bellsprout (1 Atk) = 5 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Skorupi [Uncommon] Skorupi (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Ekans [Rare] Ekans (1 Atk) = 5 Atk

Route 15 - Brun Way Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Murkrow [Common] Murkrow (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Foongus [Uncommon] Foongus (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Klefki [Rare] Klefki (1 Def) = 5 Def

Route 16 - Mélancolie Path Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Murkrow [Common] Murkrow (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Foongus [Uncommon] Foongus (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Klefki [Rare] Klefki (1 Def) = 5 Def

Frost Cavern
Nice to meet you all! Vanillite [Common] Vanillite (1 SpA) = 5 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Cubchoo [Uncommon] Cubchoo (1 Atk) = 5 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Smoochum [Rare] Smoochum (1 SpA) = 5 SpA

Route 18 - Vallée Étroite Way
Nice to meet you all! Geodude [Common] Geodude (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Durant [Uncommon] Durant (2 Def) = 10 Def

Nice to meet you all! Durant Nice to meet you all! Heatmor [Rare] Durant*4 (8 Def) + Heatmor*1 (2 SpA) = 8 Def + 2 SpA

Terminus Cave
Nice to meet you all! Durant [Common] Durant (2 Def) = 10 Def
Nice to meet you all! Geodude [Uncommon] Geodude (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Aron [Rare: 
X] Aron (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Larvitar [Rare: Y] Larvitar (1 Atk) = 5 Atk

Route 19 - Grande Vallée Way Nice to meet you all! OYwtoU1 
Nice to meet you all! Weepinbell [Common] Weepinbell (2 Atk) = 10 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Gligar [Uncommon] Gligar (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Arbok [Rare] Arbok (2 Atk) = 10 Atk

Route 20 - Winding Woods
Nice to meet you all! Foongus [Common] Foongus (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Trevenant [Uncommon] Trevenant (2 Atk) = 10 Atk
Nice to meet you all! Trevenant Nice to meet you all! Sudowoodo [Rare] Trevenant*4 (8 Atk) / Sudowoodo*1 (2 Def) = 8 Atk + 2 Def

The Pokémon Village
Nice to meet you all! Foongus [Common] Foongus (1 HP) = 5 HP
Nice to meet you all! Poliwag [Uncommon] Poliwag (1 Spe) = 5 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Lombre [Rare] Lombre (2 SpD) = 10 SpD

Route 21 - Dernière Way
Nice to meet you all! Spinda [Common] Spinda (1 SpA) = 5 SpA
Nice to meet you all! Swablu [Uncommon] Swablu (1 SpD) = 5 SpD
Nice to meet you all! Scyther [Rare] Scyther (1 Atk) = 5 Atk

Victory Road [Caves 1 & 4]
Nice to meet you all! Geodude [Common] Geodude (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Floatzel [Uncommon] Floatzel (2 Spe) = 10 Spe
Nice to meet you all! Lickitung [Rare] Lickitung (2 HP) = 10 HP

Victory Road [Caves 2 & 3]
Nice to meet you all! Geodude [Common] Geodude (1 Def) = 5 Def
Nice to meet you all! Graveler [Uncommon] Graveler (2 Def) = 10 Def

Nice to meet you all! Lickitung [Rare] Lickitung (2 HP) = 10 HP


So yeah you want to use hordes to ev train its much easier and less tedious
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Post by Zenox-rmp Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:59 am

Welcome to the forums. Like Gamer said I'm a competitive battler and I'm willing to help like I helped others.
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Post by Yria/Mara LB Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:18 pm

Welcome to the forums!!!!!!!!
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Post by XxChr0NicSpeedxX Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:42 pm

Welcome to the forums man. I'll gladly help you with competitive battling but only if you ask nicely
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Post by FelixDewott Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:24 am

@XxChr0NicSpeedxX Don't worry, I'm actually a very friendly person. If you would be able to, I actually wouldn't mind getting help with IV Breeding for one of my favourite Pokemon, Snivy. I would ask for Riolu but I know Mega Lucario is banned so may I please have some IV breeding help with Snivy instead?

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Post by Zenox-rmp Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:34 pm

Do you know how to iv breed, or do you need a starting point?
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Post by FelixDewott Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:18 pm

@Zenox-rmp I'm working on getting the Power Items currently and I'm not sure if I need Pokerus or not because I have not encountered Pokerus in Pokemon X at all yet.

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Post by XxChr0NicSpeedxX Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:27 pm

I have like 6-7 pokemon w/ pokerus i can trade
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Post by FelixDewott Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:49 pm

That'll come in handy. Do you want to PM your friend code so I can PM you mine?

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